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Nintendo Wii
The Wii had without question the best presentation of the 3 next-gen consoles. Nintendo are still hanging onto a few details regarding release dates and pricing, but they did state it would be available in the fourth quarter of 2006 and it would be cheaper than its rivals.
The new Zelda game Twilight Princess featured heavily in the presentation and it looks great. It was revealed that the Wii controller has a speaker to offer depth of sound, something none of the other consoles have. For example when you're firing arrows in the Zelda game you'll hear the bow string tighten on the controller's speaker, then as it flies through the air the sound will transfer over to the tv speakers. Very impressive.
It turns out that the nunchuk you hold in your left hand also has motion sensors of its own, independent of the wiimote. The developers of Red Steel describe this as having both of your hands in the game.
Playstation 3
Wouldn't you know it, Sony 'borrowed' Nintendo's idea for the motion sensor in the controller. A good idea is a good idea, but this smacks of desperation. Their implementation of it is less powerful than the Wii's and they've had to sacrifice force feedback. Another surprise about the controller is its shape. Ditching the boomerang design that was unveiled at last year's E3, Sony have wisely reverted to a more standard PS2 shape. Despite these surprises Sony's presentation was still relatively uninteresting, a large portion of it harping on about how well the PS2 has sold and how 'cool' the PSP is.
A few of the third party titles looked good in the brief clips, games such as Coded Arms: Assault and Gundam: Mobile Unit. Another title that looked really cool was the card game for eyetoy called The Eye Of Judgement, where you place real cards on a flat surface under the eyetoy and monsters spawn on screen. Who knows whether it's as fun as it looks, but it could be the Pokemon of the future!
The final bummer was the announcement of the pricing. The good version of the PS3 will cost an offputting $599 in the USA, worse still for europeans it will be considerably more at 599 Euros. Yikes!
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Ndaddy
yeah ps3 had a coupla interesting things but wii owned everything.
Scraw
The future's bright, Wii's so going to dominate this generation of consoles!
loafer
haha even peter moore from m$ is recommending wii.
Dark Magic
The Wii is gonna be awesome, WAY better than the PS3. But I still don't know why they changed the name. Why Wii?
Zabdiel Rivera
I was watching some E3 clips and it looks as if Wii stole the show. I would say the line span time was more than 6 hours at the end. I was suprised at how well the games look, since all the rumors I heard said the graphics would be very down to par. Anyway, my favorite wii games so far are Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy and Red Steel. My favorite 360 game is Bioshock so far, and for PS3 it has to be Metal Gear 4.
Tintin
About the graphics; Nintendo admitted it would have less power but also stated "it's not about how much power you have, it's how you use it".
hooble
I don't care if the graphics aren't as advanced, it's still supposed to be 2 or 3 times more powerful than gamecube. Also it won't cost $600 and will actually be fun to play.
Nintendo Fan
Sony showed off their new controller function by showing the crowd a model of a rubber duck in a bath tub. A very poor decision on their part showing off "their" new idea. I would certainly never pay for a $600 copied controller, rubber duck machine. Nice try Sony, but you're going to need more than that to take the Wii down.
Mario Mario
I'm sure Sony will come back with something way better than this, they always do.
cubeboy101
Sony made public fools of themselves, their showing was very poor and HEAVY with FMV. I've not seen any graphics on 360/ps3 the Wii can't handle - true HD. Sony's GBA tilt sensor was the biggest joke of the show, how can anyone fanboy this pathetic company?
Shirobon
Wii will dominate! (oh god, I made a HORRIBLE pun, sorry.)
Epsilon
Man, I've already saved up $200 for the Wii. I just can't wait. Yeah, the name sounds a little weird but don't judge a book by it's cover. Wait a minute, I've only saved up enough money for the system and not games! Time to hoard again.
Epsilon
Sony ditched the boomerang shape? Darn, I wanted to see if it would come back if I threw it. 
Epsilon
Wii will, Wii will, rock you!
SSBB Master
Xbox and PS2 may have outsold Gamecube, but this year I hope Wii will outsell the Xbox 360 and the Ps3. Who's with me!
Flamic
PS3 copied the Nintendo Wii with their controller.
fallout
True but they sure did a half-assed job of it, I mean there's no rumble or anything.
Cloudkill
I can't wait for Wii now. Saved up, I even bought a samsung HDTV for it even though it doesn't do true HD but I don't care.
limbo
I Really hope Nintendo kind of wins the next gen battle. Winning means that they rise profits at all. I love nintendo and I am still afraid they are going under like Sega. It is a shame that Nintendo always has the innovative ideas (not only the new controller, there was the rumble pack, if anyone remembers shipped with Lylat wars n64), and the analog stick (n64) and Sony and MS always simply copy their stuff. Even worse Sony always tries to make it "better" like dual-shock, or two analog sticks. Nobody appreciates Nintendo's innovative and creative work. Like I said it's a shame that the only developer who brings new life into this business has the crappiest success.
Stef
Good to hear Nintendo getting the support it deserves for once. Nice one, all. Incidentally I hope Nintendo were listening in on Epsilon - wii will rock you would make a great marketing theme.
cubeboy101
Why did you get a Samsung? You should have got an LG as they support either xd engine or xd engine 2 and this upscales 480p to a near perfect 720p. PRESTO wii has HD for FREE.
Phoenix
You guys are all complaining about a $600 price tag on the ps3 but you just haven't quite realized what comes with it. 60GB hard drive (3x as big as 360, and I don't even know if wii HAS a hdd.). Also a blu-ray player, that makes it worth it right there. A standalone blu-ray player is $1000. Oh right, the motion sensor idea. None of it was nintendo's idea. Sure they were the first to implement it into console gaming, but motion sense technology was used a long time ago in PC games and there are already 3D space mice for computers out there.
Epsilon
Ha ha ha! There's already a couple of music videos on Youtube that have "We will rock you!" as background music. There's also one or two music videos with "We are the champions of the world".
Epsilon
I just found out that Game On, a yearly event at the Seattle Science Museum is this week. Two years ago I got to try out Donkey Konga, this year maybe the Wii! If not, this summer I'm attending a game programming camp at Digipen. For those of you who subscribe to Nintendo Power, there's usually an ad for it in there. But here's the big part to this, it's RIGHT NEXT to the one and only NINTENDO OF AMERICA! And the best part? There's two trips a week that you can sign up for to go there FREE! I swear to bring back pictures!
fallout
A 60Gb hard disk isn't really worth much and Blu-Ray isn't even going to take off. PS3 owners are going to be left with an overpriced lemon.
Hyrule lord
Hey Epsilon, didn't they show that Wario and Samus have Super moves?
Epsilon
They might be super moves and they might not. It's uncomfirmed. No new games at Game On this year
cmohawkman
The Wii looks koooool.
SSBB Master
So far the only 2 games I want are The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Super Smash Bros Brawl.
Some dude
How many times have Sony copied Nintendo? Can't wait to get Wii yay support with my DS now I only have to find the money 
wii man
Nintendo is rockin with this new console, Sony just did a bad job of copying the wii controller with their non-playable version of it. I'm getting the wii and so are my mates. People will still buy the ps3 but more will buy the wii. Graphics are better on ps3 though, even though I don't care about graphics wii has a class game (RED STEEL). Also Zelda, Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros Brawl. So everyone, wii and nintendo are the best.
joecoolaug
The only thing about the wii that concerns me is the low internal memory. I would gladly pay an extra 50$ for a 10 or 20 gig hard drive.
joecoolaug
Actually, a 10-20GB hard drive wouldn't cost an extra $50 to manufacture, so they could make some extra profit by selling it for $250 w/ a 10-20GB hard drive.
daruni106
Another thing that could boost the Wii's sales are the launch titles. In days past, whenever a new nintendo system came out, gamers had to wait a few years for the good games like Zelda (this is what probably hurt the gamecube the most). But when the Wii comes out, there will be a Zelda title at the launch! Sah-weet!
aussie
It's being reported that Sega are remaking Shenmue into one big epic saga (shenmue 1 & 2 and the other 12 chapters they never got around to doing). If they designed this for the Wiimote, could be the greatest game of ALL TIME. No I am not kidding!
wii fan
I thought the PS3 would cost around $399-$450. But it's now $600? I would rather buy the Wii as it is $200-$300 cheaper. Wii rocks. Wii will avenge Sony and Microsoft!
paul BIG nintendo fan
I think the wii is gunna rock because just think all that new style gameplay for less than $200 that's amazing. Nintendo is all about 'new' and that's what we're getting so rock on wii!
nwme
Hey can someone tell me how much memory the wii has because I know 512mb is good, but can you get any better memory on it like 5gb or 10gb?
wiiiiii
How much is the wii in english pounds and pennies so I can buy it?
Chaosx387
Can anyone tell me specifically why the Wii needs the Wi-Fi?
wii owns you
I think it only needs wi-fi for playing online and downloading stuff.
Love the Wii
When is the wii coming out anyway?
1 up mushroom
It will come out sometime in November.
Link
The Wii is coming out in the 4th Quarter (end of the year), Nintendo hasn't given an exact date yet, but people are speculating that it would be around October.
MiniMario
Nintendo is in fine form for achieving world dominance once again, and at last!
MontyGommo
The Wi-Fi is an excellent idea. The only thing stopping me from connecting my current systems for online play is the fact that I can't be bothered running cables everywhere.
Koen van Beeck
Ah.. Great time to be a Nintendo fanboy, isn't it? Wii conquers E3, and Sony is forced to shamelessly rip off the WiiMote. Good times.
wnwim
I hate sony, they've copied from the wii's controller and no offence but they never innovate or make anything new. They also copied wi-fi from the ds on the psp. The ps3 has good graphics and the eye toy but nothing else, the wii has better everything.
JD
I Can't Wait for Wii! So it's coming out Forth Quarter, huh? Is that In England or America?
JD
Wii Is Superior to XB360 and Ps3 In Every Single Way! Apart From Graphics, But That Isn't the Point. Also, Anyone Who Speaks About How Much Better The Ps3 Will Be - Which It Won't Be - Leave This Site! NOW!
JD
I can't wait for Wii! So it's coming out fourth quarter, huh? Is that in England or America? Wii is superior to XB360 and Ps3 in every single Way! Apart from graphics, but that isn't the point. Also, anyone who speaks about how much better the Ps3 will be - which it won't be - leave this site! NOW! Oh, and also, a cool title thing could be - "Are Wii The Waiting", Heh Heh.
Rags.exe
Being the airhead Megaman fan, I hope MMZ will come out on the Wii. Awesome hack-and-slash game!
aaRON
Nintendo is cool looking but do you think that you can play it for more than an hour without getting tired? Plus PS3 couldn't have copied the Wii, they couldn't get the patents in time. Anyway 360 will win all, Wii will gimmick you with nothing special.
SSBB Master
My list for games I want are: Legend of Zelda TT - I have been waiting for this game for a long time. Super Smash Bro Brawl - I am a big SSB fan. Maybe Pokemon Battle Revolution because it looks awesome.
Quintessence
The ability to use a wiimote as a sword or a hand etc in an interactive environment is amazing. Anyone remember the movie 'The Lawnmower Man'? That's what Nintendo is bringing us.
Nanny sixty forty!
Well, in my opinion the following will happen: Lots of the good 3rd party developers will flock to the Wii. The PS3 will do ok at first, but will be as lackluster as the gamecube in sales due to the high price and eventual loss of 3rd party developers and such. The Xbox 360 will still be able to get a lot of sales due to HALO 3 and other good games, but still will fall behind the shadow of the Wii. The Xbox 360 will have technical problems and the PS3 will have minor ones. The Wii will have problems with the motion controller under halogen lighting with the first 10,000 or so units. Some 3rd party developers will be slow to the new kind of gaming and thus mess up a little on new games. The virtual console idea will revive a whole bunch of old school gamers out there (8-bit forever!). The motion controller of the Wii will be SUPER quick to popularity in shooting and sword games (to large types of games). So in the end, the Wii will be at the top but there will still be some competition before it towers abover the rest as I believe it will quite quickly. I hope I did this fairly and don't sound like the nintendo fanboy I am .
Shizzle
Sony won't come back with anything, they are struggling for ideas. They haven't even come up with a new concept for a console, they just stick to the playstation. If you compare the graphics from the old consoles such as the Xbox, Ps2 and the Gamecube I'd have to say the Playstation came in last place. The design of the games and pretty much everything was never as good as the others.
Ba-bing
I so agree Shizzle. List of must have games are: LOZTP, Super Mario Galaxy, MP3, Sonic WildFire and anything and everything on the virtual console.
i rule
I think that even though Sony and Microsoft have really good specs the wiimote tops everything. And at the ps3's price, Nintendo has a great chance.
brad
I have all the systems, ps2, gamecube and xbox. All around I am very disappointed with the ps3. Sure the graphics will be great but 600 bucks for a few extra high def pics are surely not worth it. The 360 I think is doing a great job and it has a pretty decent price range but truthfully I give my vote to the nintendo wii. Great games, great control (thanks to the new remote) and a really great price of 250 bucks makes the wii #1 in my book.
JD
Oh my god Nanny sixty forty! You seem to have everything worked out. That's amazing. I think it might actually work out like that. One thing is for sure though, Wii Will Rock You! (Sorry, enthusiastic force of habit).
nintendo freak
So far I want Metroid Prime 3, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
Twangalang
Wii tops all. Anyone who will pay 600 dollars just for the ps3's graphics has major mental problems. The xbox 360 is ok but wii is better. Wii will dominate this gaming generation.
Epsilon
Woo, it's been quite some time. I can't wait, so far I have saved up for everything I want on the Wii. Now I have to wait. Oh, and they only had old/released games at Game On. Sorry, got confused with another gaming event.
Epsilon
You guys know that this is one of the top sites because of inSONICnia right? That's how I found this site anyways.
ResEVIL72501
Anyone who is afraid that Nintendo is going under like Sega don't worry. Nintendo has a little thing I like to call a Gameboy and it's the best selling system around. Nintendo could make another console and still be able to survive on the sheer profits from Gameboy and DS which has sold a staggering amount more than PSP.
tu madre
The wii will obliterate all competitors leaving them to eat all the scraps of the competition it leaves behind.
plok
People who think Nintendo are going under are idiots. Gamecube was profitable, unlike Xbox. I'm not sure about PS2, I assume they made money.
DemoniusX
I always have faith in Nintendo and I am sure they will finally get what they deserve once more, domination in the gaming world. Microsoft and Sony are doing the same damn thing we have been doing for the past 20 years and agreeing with Nintendo, it gets boring. Wii's concept of playing is believing I wholely agree with. Now I haven't played the wii but I plan to own one and the ability to play TG16 and Genesis on there is all the more reason to pick this up. The Wii shows what Nintendo can do and it is very "revolutionary". I have talked to two friends that had the ability to go to e3 and they said this: "Ps3 looks ok but it's the same ol crap, so it wears off after 30 mins of play" and then the wii response from them was "Wii is fun as hell, it's nice to see something that I can play and enjoy for a long period of time and not get bored, GO NINTENDO". I shed a tear in seeing Nintendo getting the success it deserves. I just hope all of it comes into play this November.
me
To the people who want to know about hard drives, it has 2 ports used for mass storage devices that are bought seperatly to store the good old classics. Also ps3 will kick ass because of Killzone but I do think 420? for 1 game and ps3 is way too much. You can buy small cars for that, then the wii 150? with 30-40 per game means you can get loads.
Darunia106
Plok, the reason that the Xbox wasn't profitable is because Microsoft can afford it. They just happen to make the most popular OS in the world, Windows, not to mention Office. The reason that they come up with a loss on the Xbox 360 is because they pour a ton of money into marketing the system. That's why I like Nintendo, they focus on just making systems and games they hope everyone will enjoy. Why do you think the Gamecube was the only system not able to play movie DVDs or music CDs?
metroid lover
Why do sony always copy nintendo's ideas! I pray to god that the Wii beats the hell out sony and microsoft. Metroid Prime 3 rocks!
Luigi the pizza man
Nintendo certainly have the best hand this time around. I think they will do excellent with the wii! Ps3 and xbox 360 are so boring.
Electronics Analyst
To be quite honest I think the differences in graphics between the 3 next gen consoles are going to be very few. Overall the consoles are built after the 512 mgbit standard which will allow them to run almost the same graphics depending on how big the built in processor are and which type they are. The only noticable difference between the consoles will be because of their ability to show a certain amount of pixels (pixel rate). Sony playstation 3 will be able to show more details because of that, but the graphics between the consoles will nevertheless stay the same. After all I hope you do remember the last console war, there was really no visual difference in graphic quality.
Nintendo Rules
PS2 may have won the console battle last time but Nintendo Wii will definitely win this one, followed by xb360. PS3 is way too expensive and will get boring after a few weeks, whereas with the Wii there is always something new. Thank god for Nintendo!
orenn
As many of you have already said, I sure am glad Nintendo is finally coming back to the top after all these years. The NES is the last time they truly dominated in the gaming industry. Everyone always went for the playstation, though I believe the n64 was better. Then when the gamecube came around, they REALLY got overshadowed by the playstation 2 and the Xbox. But now after so many years, Nintendo fought its way back to the top, and what is really amazing, they did it without changing tactics. They never resorted to making nothing but violent games and sports games. They kept with what they were doing and what's more, they never gave up on their idea of being innovative. They could have conformed to the ps2 / xbox and used the same old controller and the same old system, but they didn't! Go Nintendo, Go Wii, Go Metroid Prime Corruption! Whoa, where did that last one come from?
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